Sunday, 22 March 2015
Sunday, March 22, 2015 Independence , International , Scotland , Self-Determination , Sharing No comments
I heard of a possible unilateral declaration of Scottish Independence from the late Robin Cook MP in 1983 at the Labour Party Conference in Perth City Hall. I asked Robin about Labour's prospects at the election. We will win Scotland, we agreed but it looked like another Thatcher victory due to English dominance of seat numbers.
He then said 'How can we let the Scottish people suffer another Tory government hell-bent on union destruction and driving down living standards? I am seriously considering leading all Scottish Labour MP's over the burning bridge to join with the SNP and declare UDI'.
Robin Cook contemplated UDI but clearly forces within the Scottish party stopped him. Labour has tended to make the mistake of equating their own jobs-worth interests in Scotland as the national interest of the Scottish people and by 1983 Gordon Brown had forgotten his statement of principle in the Red Book for Scotland that if the Union of 1707 stopped serving the interests of the working people of Scotland it should end. Labour do not serve the interests of the people of Scotland otherwise they would acknowledge that there has never been equality between England and Scotland since the Union of 1707. As the McCrone reports of 1974 and 1975 show all the cream of profit from North Sea Oil has been taken from Scotland and spent on England, with projects such as upgrading the north and south circular road in London, the M25 and the Channel Tunnel also paid for from the 'bonanza' of NSO. Economically, Scotland has been robbed and impoverished by subsequent Westminster governments.
Better Together kid themselves by asserting that the referendum vote on 18th Sept expressed the settled will of the Scottish people. Nothing could be further from reality. Project Fear turned to Project Hysteria in the last two weeks and unleashed the most vicious forces of what was a Westminster-led ideological war upon the Scottish people to kill confidence, kill hope, and undermine the idea that Scots were even capable of running their own affairs. Economic collapse and calamity would ensue if we DARED to vote Yes, huge retail price hikes would be instantaneous, pensions would cease the day after the vote. Essentially we were told DO NOT DARE to VOTE YES - WE OWN YOU AND YOU WILL OBEY YOUR MASTERS!
It went right off the Richter Scale of political discourse. The 3 riders of the Apocalypse rode among our cities like 'Murder' in Shelley's Mask of Anarchy. Those who think themselves the rulers of Scotland raged their venom via our tv screen and newspapers they own, telling us what they would do if we dared to think for ourselves. So, by any standards, the will of the Scottish people was among some groups, especially the elderly, that of fear, panic and some were petrified. Thugs who would deliberately do this to any community would be judged as criminals and brought to court and sentenced.
The day of reckoning is coming for the Project Fear masters at the ballot box on 7th May 2015.
Ruth Davidson MSP and her Labour cohorts are naive in the extreme to believe there was 'intimidation' on both sides of the Referendum debate given the state sponsored ideological war that raged upon the concerns of the people of Scotland in the last weeks of the Referendum. The egg thrown at Jim Murphy was idiotic. Some stupid unpleasant comments on the internet from either side pails to a drop in the ocean compared to the authoritarian anti-democratic abuse orchestrated from Downing Street, aided and abetted by the Scottish Labour crew. The will of the Scottish people could not have been more unsettled, muddied, insulted, scared and in some cases petrified. I saw the fear in pensioner's eyes while campaigning. In old Scots parlance, it was Keep yer fit on their neck. Endless intimidation was the essential buckshot in Project Fear's armoury.
I, like others, have suggested, since the referendum result, that the Yes Campaign should be maintained and work together at the next election in tandem with the SNP where only one Pro-Independence campaign is fielded in each constituency. This would allow candidates to come from the wide spectrum of the Yes Campaign, if talents such as Iain McWhirter, Jeane Freeman, Lesley Riddoch, Blair Jenkins, David Hayman, Carol Fox, Cat Boyd, Colin Fox , Liam O'Hare, Jonathon Shafi and hopefully others if they are prepared to stand as pro-Independence candidates unopposed by SNP candidates. This makes sense on many levels. Yes literature, car stickers, badges, flags, T-shirts and so on are already made. No need for a new marketing brand for a new organisation. We all know what Yes Scotland stand for. This co-operation needs agreement at senior level but as an SNP councillor In would be more than happy for this community wide approach. Together we awoke a new civic voice in Scottish democracy and its structure is still extant and needs to continue.
If there is a majority of Pro-Independence MP's elected on 7th May 2015 there are various scenarios that might play out. One is that the majority of SNP and Yes Scotland MP's will compel Westminster to deliver on Devo-max. But Devo-max will not provide the oil and gas revenues to Scotland needed to kick start Scotland out of austerity. England and rUK need that tax take to pay their stupendous debts. We will still have weapons of species obliteration in the Holy loch. £100 billion wasted on the Empire mindset phallic symbol of world status that gives the egos of Westminster 'global influence' to bomb kill and create more Terrorism in the name of peace and stability. We will not have enough funds to eradicate food banks and grotesque socially engineered austerity and poverty wages and socially engineered unemployment which is designed to keep wages as low as possible. Thatcherism started the process of social engineering and it has been continued by every government since, Blue or Red. Tories all. The Prime Minister and Gordon Brown differ on the Vow and are now promising different powers to our parliament. Brown is in a panic that Scotland might get control of raising and spending income tax because that might cause problems for British Labour in London - he is fixated on helping Labour, not the people of Scotland. The vow is in tatters already. Christine Graham MSP was right when she said the relationship between Scotland and London is now over, even if the vote was a majority for the No camp. If Westminster politicians cant even agree on what level of 'Devo-Max' they promised, what will they deliver?
Labour has already lost Scotland. Whatever the result next May. They could not face the people of Scotland in public meetings. They hid from the people. They were scared to debate with Yes Scotland speakers. They were scared of the people of Scotland. One or two did on a small scale. They hunted in packs. They had meetings where people were invited via email. Selected members of the small crowds. Vetted. Secret venues. This was the behaviour of the people's representatives! What happened to the once proud, open and democratic voices in the Old Labour Labour party I once was a member of? They are dead. Labour have lived in a power 'bubble' of their own self-importance for so long now, they don't even know they are in a bubble. Bubbles burst.
I believe the grass-roots Yes Scotland campaign should, if we (SNP and Yes Scotland candidates) win a majority of seats in May, make a unilateral declaration of Independence and demonstrate peacefully with unswervingly disciplined law-abiding behaviour, from the day after the election result, in every city of Scotland and demand action from our new MP's and the Scottish Government. Such a demonstration would not be to usurp the authority of our elected Members or Scottish government, but to show that Scotland is ready for major change, whether that be for full 'Devo-Max' or demands for another Referendum or negotiations for Independence should be left to the political leadership of Scotland. Nor would it be wise to call for an occupation of all cities to go on until demands are met, which would be a recipe for confrontation. It is the job of elected representatives and leaders to lead and to speak our collective voice: demonstrations are a way of making that voice heard loud and clear.
A close examination of electoral statistics for Westminster governments from 1945 show that no government elected in that period had the authority of 50% or more of the total votes cast at any election. All took power with under 50% of votes cast. Two governments were elected with around 35% of votes cast.
Indeed, when we consider the 40% rule imposed upon the vote at the 1979 Scottish referendum for a Scottish Assembly, and look at the governments elected to Westminster it will come as no surprise to readers that no government since 1945 obtained 40% of the total electorate in their favour. The iron cast stipulation of the 40% rule made for the vote in 1979 was therefore a deliberate stitch-up to postpone the creation of a Scottish Assembly. Labour are not to be trusted and neither are the Tories whatever Vow they make.
So, if today's Yougov speculation comes true and there are 26 or more SNP/Pro-Independence candidates elected on 7th May, I would suggest that a unilateral declaration of Independence should be considered by grass-roots Yes Scotland campaigners as a means of keeping the feet to the fire of the Westminster elites, be they Blue or Red Tories. If we elect a majority of MP's for Pro-Independence candidates and have one or two more MP's that Labour, then a claim of right for UDI may be subject to question. However, if Yes Scotland/SNP win by 5 or 6 more MP's than Labour in Scotland then the case for UDI is clear because that would put Yes Scotland/SNP around 10% ahead in seats. First past the post governments in the UK have always taken power, even with around 35% of the vote, so Scottish UDI should be seriously considered if we win a large victory in May.
I would attest that around 20% of the NO votes in the Referendum were cast due to fear and panic and therefore the vote may remain legal and binding, BUT it was a pyrrhic victory with intimidation at its core and does not represent the settled will of the Scots people. It may be far sooner rather than later that our new First Minster can echo the words of Nye Bevan and say 'We were the dreamers, we were the sufferers, now we are the builders'. Scotland must be Independent for the sake of all our people.
Sunday, March 22, 2015 Borneo , Nationalist , News , Sabah , Sabah Sarawak Union (SSU) , Sarawak , Sharing , SSKM No comments
Mereka tidak tergolong dalam mana-mana parti politik, dan berumur antara 25 dan 32 tahun, keempat-empat lelaki yang didakwa menghasut di Kota Kinabalu Isnin lalu kini mewakili wajah orang muda yang berjuang untuk apa yang mereka percaya merupakan hak negeri yang hilang dalam Perjanjian Malaysia.
Mereka menghadapi tuduhan memiliki bahan menggesa Sabah dan Sarawak meninggalkan Malaysia ketika ditangkap di pasar minggu Tuaran pada 1 Februari.
Mereka ialah penganggur Azrie Situ, 25, dan Jemmy Liku Markus Situ, 32, mekanik Erick Jack William, 29, dan pemandu pelancong Joseph Kolis, 29.
“Begitulah trendnya di Sabah sekarang,” presiden Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) Datuk Seri Yong Teck Lee memberitahu The Malaysian Insider.
“Orang muda dari latar belakang berbeza yang tidak memihak kepada mana-mana parti politik sekarang memperjuangkan isu yang biasanya diperjuangkan pembangkang."
Bekas ketua menteri Sabah itu berpendapat, trend itu berpunca daripada kesedaran yang meningkat di kalangan pemuda Sabah mengenai sejarah negeri mereka.
"Sejarah yang mereka mula pelajari sekarang tidak terdapat dalam buku teks sekolah. Apa yang mereka temui ialah kerajaan (persekutuan) yang terus-terusan dan terang-terangan tidak mempedulikan Perjanjian Malaysia," kata Yong ketika ditemui baru-baru ini.
Katanya, kesedaran itu kini bertukar menjadi kemarahan dan kebencian, serta menimbulkan keperluan untuk mereka berjuang menuntut hak mereka.
"Pada masa lalu, kerajaan boleh menyuakan kepada rakyat apa sahaja maklumat yang mereka mahu berikan kerana mereka mengawal TV dan radio, tetapi zaman Internet sekarang, ia makin sukar dilakukan.
"Dari Internetlah anak muda Sabah ini mula mengetahui tentang ketidakadilan yang diterima Sabah."
Ahli Parlimen Barisan Nasional (BN) Kalabakan Datuk Seri Abdul Ghapur Salleh ketika memberi amaran ke Putrajaya supaya menjaga kebajikan rakyat Sabah di Parlimen pada Isnin, memberi kredit kepada dakwaan Yong apabila beliau mengatakan belia Sabah, termasuk anak-anaknya, tidak lagi membaca akhbar arus perdana kerana ia dianggap pro-kerajaan, dan sebaliknya memilih laporan berita atas talian.
"Orang tuduh Internet ini penuh dengan penipu. Tetapi belia ini berpendidikan tinggi! Mereka boleh membezakan pembohongan dengan kebenaran."
Empat mereka itu merupakan antara 9 yang ditahan polis di pasar itu – digelar Tuaran 9 oleh media tempatan.
Mereka didakwa dan dibebaskan dengan ikat jamin RM20,000 dan seorang penjamin, sementara 5 yang lain dibebaskan dengan jaminan polis, tetapi tidak pasti jika mereka juga akan didakwa.
Menurut laporan, terdapat "ramai lagi" anak muda yang pergi ke pasar itu untuk menjayakan apa yang didakwa "kempen mengutip tanda tangan" memaksa Putrajaya menghormati Perjanjian Malaysia.
"Adakah satu hasutan mendapatkan tandatangan menuntut kerajaan pusat mengkaji semula Perjanjian Malaysia?" soal Joseph.
"Polis kata kami anggota SSKM (Sabah, Sarawak Keluar Malaysia). Mana mungkin, kerana SSKM ialah laman Facebook. Bagaimanakah kami boleh jadi anggota laman Facebook? Ia bukan satu pertubuhan bukan kerajaan (NGO)," kata Joseph.
Katanya, beliau menganggap penahanan mereka dan dakwaan yang dikenakan terhadap mereka di mahkamah satu "gangguan polis" terhadap mereka yang lantang mahukan perjanjian itu dikaji semula, dakwaan yang disokong bekas wakil rakyat BN Datuk James Ligunjang.
"Kami bukan puak pemisah dan tidak pernah berjuang untuk pemisahan," kata Joseph.
"Apa yang kami mahu hanya supaya Putrajaya menghormati Perjanjian Malaysia dan memberi kami autonomi sebagai sebuah negeri rakan kongsi yang sama rata dalam persekutuan.
"Kami berjuang untuk autonomi, autonomi penuh. Bukan pemisahan.
"Polis yang sebenarnya cuba kaitkan kami dengan kumpulan pemisah melalui laman Facebook."
Joseph berkata sekiranya polis tidak menyerang mereka, “kami boleh dengan mudah dapat 300,000 orang” menandatangani petisyen kajian semula itu.
“Senang saja, di kalangan orang muda di Sabah,” katanya.
Ligunjang, yang putus asa dengan politik BN dan kini bergerak sepenuh masa sebagai aktivis sosial, sedang berusaha mendapatkan sokongan untuk menekan Putrajaya supaya menghormati Perjanjian Malaysia. Katanya, beliau juga diserang pihak polis kerana usahanya itu.
Beliau mendakwa polis bulan lalu menyita dan merampas kira-kira 31 pasang baju-T dengan perkataan "Hormati Perjanjian Malaysia" daripadanya di bandar Lahad Datu.
Cara polis mendakwa 4 mereka di mahkamah juga dipertikaikan.
Yong, seorang peguam, mempersoalkan mengapa kertas pertuduhan itu tertulis "Mahkamah Tanah Melayu" apabila ia sepatutnya dibuat atas borang Mahkamah Borneo memandangkan mahkamah Sabah dan Sarawak berada di bawah mahkamah Borneo.
Pada masa yang sama, keempat-empat lelaki itu mempersoalkan mengapa pihak polis memaklumkan mengenai keperluan mereka hadir di mahkamah melalui satu kertas nota yang diconteng.
"Mereka tidak ada notis yang elok kah?" soal Jeremy.
Didakwa mengikut Seksyen 4 (2) Akta Hasutan 1948, mereka menghadapi hukuman denda tidak lebih RM2,000 atau penjara tidak melebihi 18 bulan atau kedua-duanya jika sabit kesalahan. – 22 Mac, 2015.
Pelawaan Isma disambut baik oleh rata-rata penduduk Sabah dan Sarawak yang ingin menyatakan hasrat untuk keluar dari Persekutuan Malaysia.
KUCHING: Ikatan Muslimin Malaysia (Isma) telah menyeru masyarakat Kristian Malaysia untuk menerima keputusan Mahkamah Rayuan mengharamkan penggunaan perkataan ‘Allah’ oleh mingguan Katolik The Herald.
Katanya, mereka sentiasa boleh mempertimbangkan berhijrah jika tidak berpuas hati dengan keputusan tersebut.
Pelawaan Isma disambut baik oleh rata-rata penduduk Sabah dan Sarawak yang ingin menyatakan hasrat untuk keluar dari Persekutuan Malaysia yang diluahkan dalam Facebook mereka.
“Itu yang sebaiknya. Keluarkan Sabah dan Sarawak dari Malaysia. Suruh Isma buat kertas cadangan. Hantar kepada Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak,” kata Harry Nelson J. Seliang.
Daniel Aishiteru pula berkata,”Malaysia- bawah Thailand, atas Singapura manakala Sabah & Sarawak dalam pulau Borneo.Jauh panggang dari api bah….memang kita layak keluar. Jangan tunggu lagi…”
“Peluang sudah Isma bagi. Sabah Sarawak bantah isu kalimah Allah, keluar Malaysia. Kita tak payah sain sain surat tak susah payah gaduh mulut. Bagus lah idea Isma bagi nih,” ujar Philip Harry Son.
Beberapa orang tidak merasakan, Malaysia tidak bermakna sudah bagi mereka.
“Saya di Borneo bukan di Malaya. Saya tidak mahu bah Malaya,” ujar Collin Ontak
Gafpelz Blizt Ridexz pula berkata, “Kita bantah perkauman… Mereka semua nak keluarkan kita jadi teruskan… Lebih cepat lebih bagus.. Tak payah nak peduli bah. .Tolong keluarkan Sabah dan Sarawak dari Malaysia….Kami sedia utk keluar!”
Eva Claude menambah, “Siapa tahu Tuhan sedang bagi jalan sama Sabah Sarawak keluar Malaysia,”
Presiden Isma Abdullah Zaik Abd Rahman (gambar) berkata, sebagai rakyat Malaysia, orang Kristian mesti menerima ketuanan Islam di negara ini.
“Mereka boleh memilih untuk bergerak ke mana-mana negara lain jika mereka tidak dapat menerima ketuanan Islam dan royalti yang melindungi ketuanan agama,” ujar Abdullah Zaik Abd Rahman dalam satu kenyataan kelmarin
Sebelum ini Najib telah menandatangani sepuluh perkara di mana membenarkan penduduk Kristian menggunakan kalimah ‘Allah’ dalam Alkitab (Bible) bahasa Indonesia, Malaysia serta bahasa pribumi Iban, Kadazan Dusun dan Lun Bawang.
Sunday, March 22, 2015 Nationalist , News , Sabah , Sabah Sarawak Union (SSU) , Sarawak , Sharing , SSKM No comments
Frustration over Putrajaya's refusal to review and honour the Malaysia Agreement 1963 and its “condescending colonialist’s attitude” towards Sabah is slowly coming to a boil in this touristic “Land Below the Wind”.
For a long time, condemning Putrajaya over the alleged failure to honour the agreement used to be the domain of the opposition but now it appears to be no longer the case.
The Malaysia Agreement brought Sabah, then known as North Borneo, and the independent states of Sarawak and Singapore with the Federated Malay state of Malaya to form a new union, the Federation of Malaysia on September 16, 1963.
A list of 20 points were to safeguard the interests, rights and autonomy of the people of North Borneo upon the formation. Sarawak, too, has a similar proposal, known as 18-point agreement, with certain differences in content.
A former Barisan Nasional (BN) assemblyman Datuk James Ligunjang said the frustration and anger cut across the board, even politics, pointing out the case of the four young men charged in a Kota Kinabalu court last Monday with sedition.
The four were alleged to have in their possession materials calling for Sabah and Sarawak's secession from Malaysia.
He said that while Putrajaya could turn a deaf ear to charges by opposition politicians like Datuk Dr Jeffery Kitingan, the chairman of Star, the warnings by BN politicians like Kalabakan MP Datuk Seri Abdul Ghapur Salleh on Putrajaya's treatment of Sabah must be particularly worrying for the ruling coalition.
“It showed that Sabahans all share the view that the Malaysia Agreement had not been honoured and Sabah had been unfairly treated by Putrajaya,” Ligunjang said.
Ghapur on March 16 had warned Putrajaya in Parliament to take care of Sabahans and that if they don't, “we (BN) will lose”.
Before Ghapur's outburst, none of the Sabah BN leaders dared voiced out their resentment publicly on the issue.
Former Sabah chief minister Datuk Seri Yong Teck Lee on Thursday claimed Putrajaya had for years avoided taking a look at the Malaysia Agreement as they sought to dominate Sabah.
Giving some insight into Putrajaya's reaction and attitude whenever Sabah's rights and demands were raised with former prime minister Tun Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, Yong said Abdullah and Umno ministers would often try to sidestep the issue in what he called as “the inconvenient truth”.
“These are the sticky points we have often bugged them and which they would rather sweep under the carpet,” said Yong, who has since left BN to form his own opposition party, Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP).
The “sticky points” which had made Sabahans most unhappy include the influx of illegal immigrants, which had change the state's racial demography; “legalising” these illegals, particularly Muslim Filipinos, Indians, Pakistanis and Indonesian, by issuing them identification cards under the so-called Project IC; the security threat and work competition these “new Malaysians” posed and the demand for an increase in the oil and gas royalty.
Former Petagas assemblyman Ligunjang added Sabahans' anger at the continued plunder of the state's natural resources, particularly oil and gas, and the status of their state being downgraded from an independent nation and an equal partner in the federation to a mere state like Selangor or Johor, to the list.
“The frustration is a culmination of so many things,” he said, adding that one of the examples was the presence of Umno in Sabah.
“Umno's presence in Sabah violates the Malaysia Agreement as Malaya should not be interfering in the politics of Sabah and even Sarawak.
“They cannot be here as they do not comply with the spirit of the Malaysia Agreement.
“Also, what happened to the agreement to return 40% of the income generated by Sabah back to the state?
“Sabah and Sarawak are endowed with rich natural resources and today, after 52 years of plundering, we have both been reduced to beggars, begging to Putrajaya for handouts,” Ligunjang said.
Ligunjang, like Yong, too, has quit BN, disillusioned by what he said “Putrajaya's continued attempt to dominate Sabah”.
Wearing a white T-shirt with the words “Hormati Perjanjian Malaysia” (honour the Malaysia Agreement) emblazoned across his chest, Ligunjang describes himself now as “a full-time social activist” giving awareness talks on the Malaysia Agreement and soliciting support to press Putrajaya to honour it.
He said if Putrajaya continued to ignore the agreement and disregard calls by Sabahans, then “what options do we Sabahans have” as he spoke of seeking the British government and the United Nations' help in getting Putrajaya to sit down with the signatories of the agreement “to see if the spirit of the agreement had been achieved”.
“If we don't stand up to them now, our situation will worsen.” – March 22, 2015.
Sunday, March 22, 2015 Nationalist , Sabah , Sabah Sarawak Union (SSU) , Sarawak , Sharing , SSKM No comments
They do not belong to any political party and aged between 25 and 32. The four men who were charged with sedition in Kota Kinabalu last Monday are now the face of young Sabahans who are taking the mantle of fighting for what they believe to be the state's lost rights in the Malaysia Agreement.
The four are now contesting the charge that they were in possession of materials urging Sabah and Sarawak to leave Malaysia when arrested at the Tuaran Sunday market on February 1.
They are Azrie Situ, 25 and Jemmy Liku Markus Situ, 32, unemployed; Erick Jack William, 29, a mechanic; and Joseph Kolis, 29, a tour guide.
“That's the trend in Sabah now,” Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) president Datuk Seri Yong Teck Lee told The Malaysian Insider.
“Young people of different backgrounds and who are apolitical are now taking up an issue that used to be the domain of the opposition.”
The former Sabah chief minister attributed the trend to a growing awareness among young Sabahans of their state's history.
“The history they are beginning to learn now is not found in our school textbooks. What they have found is a continued and flagrant disregard by the (federal) government of the Malaysia Agreement,” Yong said recently.
He said it was this awareness that had turned into anger and resentment and the need to fight for what should rightfully be theirs.
“While in the past, the government could feed the people with what only information they want to give because they control the TV and radio, they find it increasingly difficult now in the age of the Internet.
“It is from the Internet that these young Sabahans learn of the injustices Sabah is getting.”
Barisan Nasional MP for Kalabakan Datuk Seri Abdul Ghapur Salleh when warning Putrajaya to take care of Sabahans in Parliament on Monday, lent credence to Yong's claim when he said Sabah youth, including his children, do not read mainstream newspapers because it was perceived as pro-government, and so turned to the online news reports instead.
“People accuse the Internet of being full of liars. But these youth are educated people. They can tell lies from the truth.”
The four were among nine people – dubbed the "Tuaran 9" by local media – rounded up by the police at the market.
While four were charged and released on RM20,000 bail in one surety each, the other five were released on police bail, uncertain if they, too, would be charged.
Reportedly, there were “many more” young people who had gone to the market to what they claimed was a “signature collection campaign” to force Putrajaya to honour the Malaysia Agreement.
“Is it seditious to solicit signatures to demand the federal government review the Malaysia Agreement?” asked Joseph.
“The police are claiming that we are members of SSKM (Sabah, Sarawak Keluar Malaysia or Sabah, Sarawak to secede from Malaysia in English).
“How can that be when SSKM is a Facebook page? How can we be members of a Facebook page? It is not even an NGO,” Joseph said.
He said their arrest and subsequent charge in court was “police harassment” against those who clamour for a review of the agreement, a claim that is supported by a former BN assemblyman Datuk James Ligunjang (pic).
“We are not secessionists and have never fought for secession,” Joseph said.
“All we want is for Putrajaya to honour the Malaysia Agreement and give us the autonomy as an equal partner state in the federation.
“We are fighting for autonomy, full autonomy. Not secession.
“It is the police who are trying to link us to secession via the Facebook page.”
Joseph said if police had not harassed them, “we could easily get 300,000 people” to sign the petition for a review.
“Easily, among young people in Sabah,” he said.
Ligunjang, who has since given up on BN politics and has gone full time as a social activist drumming support to press Putrajaya to honour the Malaysia Agreement, said he, too, had been harassed by the police over his work to get Putrajaya honour the agreement.
He claimed police last month seized and confiscated about 31 T-shirts with the words “Hormati Perjanjian Malaysia” (honour the Malaysia Agreement) from him in the town of Lahad Datu.
The manner the police charged the four in court was also questioned.
Yong, a lawyer, is questioning why the charge sheet was on that of “Mahkamah Tanah Melayu” when it should be on the Mahkamah Borneo form since Sabah and Sarawak courts come under the Borneo court.
At the same time, the four asked why the police informed them of their court appearance by handing them a scribbled note.
“Don't they have proper notice?” Jemmy, the oldest of the four, asked. – March 22, 2015.